Former "The Voice " Contestant Singer, BETH Goes Solo & She's Slaying it! She's Got Next!

 Interview by: Gina Sedman

Beth Griffith-Manley—to whom she goes by the name BETH—is the daughter of Motown legend Johnny Griffith from The Funk Brothers. Formerly a background singer for Anita Baker, she is currently a background singer for KEM & Najee and has toured extensively. Taking a leap of faith, she auditioned for NBC's "The Voice" and was selected as a contestant. She was coached by Kelly Clarkson and John Legend. Interviewing Beth was a pleasant experience. She is highly skilled, incredibly personable, and very down-to-earth. Our conversation focused on her career and life, as well as what she shared with me.

It's so good to speak with you today! Thank you so kindly for your time. No, thank you!

You're welcome! I think you're amazing! After reading about you and all That you've accomplished, I had to interview you! You truly fit the vision of “The Indie Post” because you are a positive role model doing extraordinary things. I wanted to know this amazing human being! Awe, thank you!

You're welcome. I know our readers will be inspired by your story. Oh, thank you.

You're welcome.  So, let's get into it. Let’s have a fun conversation! Sure, I love a chat between girls.

Right? Yes!

OK, where and you from, and how did you get involved in singing? I grew up in Detroit, MI. I come from a very structured home where there were rules, curfews, and chores. I had a normal childhood. I was raised in a two-parent home with my mom and my dad.  It was an interesting combination because my mother was an educator, and my father was a musician. In fact, he was one of the original members of the “Funk Brothers” from Motown Records.  Unfortunately, when The Funk Brothers left Detroit to move to Los Angeles, my dad stayed in Detroit. This happened before I was born. Consequently, my father began working at a high school as a piano teacher. So basically, both of my parents were teachers, but my dad was an educator who taught piano. The great thing is that both my parents instilled into me the importance of education, mainly because of the experience that my father had in the music business as a musician. consequently, they pushed me in the direction of education.

Because my father was a part of Motown Records, he experienced some of the negative aspects of the industry. I believe he wanted to shield me from that. I am one of three siblings with one brother and one sister. Out of all three of us, I'm the only one that pursued a career in music.

How did you get involved in music? Well, my parents realized that I was a natural entertainer ever since I was a young child. they knew this because they would frequently catch me posing and taking pictures. I even have the personality of an entertainer. Although they felt strongly that that would be the direction that I would go in they still try to encourage me to pursue my education.

Did you? Yes, I did. In fact, I got my degree in business, but the music was always lurking in the back of my mind. I always felt as though the music was something that I was destined to do. Eventually, I did end up transitioning out of the corporate world in order to pursue my dreams.

Being raised by someone who made such a great contribution to the Motown sound and incredible impact on our music history, did you recognize who your father was? 

No, as a child, I really did not know the significance of what my father contributed to the music business, being a funk brother from Motown, until much later in life, because my father's music career was not the focus in our home as much as it was in society. Their focus was education and to have all their children become well-rounded people. 

Did a lot of the people from Motown come to your house regularly? Yes, my father's friends who were also musicians frequently visited our home. One thing I did know is that he was a musician, he played with different artists, and that he had his own music, but I was not encouraged to follow suit. So, as I got older, I began to realize the impact that my father made in this world as it relates to music history. Now I know what my dad has done. But I did pursue my music career because it was just natural for me.

What are some of the words of wisdom that your father shared with you that you would like to share with our readers? He always wanted me to make sure that I was well-spoken and educated. I think he really pushed that because he believed that “if I can speak well, and present myself well, that's half the battle. So, he really pushed that. This is something both of my parents stressed.

He also would tell me, “Don't get in the door and make someone change their mind about you before you even speak because your appearance is just wrong. He really stressed having a decent appearance. Then, after you get through the door looking right then when you open your mouth, you have to sound right.

Wow sounds like you had an amazing dad who was full of wisdom! So, let's talk about leaving corporate America. Earlier, you spoke about transitioning into music. how did it all come together for you? I went to college, I worked a job, and at night, I sang in a band in nightclubs. Excuse me I'm trying to think back that far. What's funny is that it feels like 100 years ago. What I did know is that all I wanted to do was be a full-time singer, but at the time, it seemed possible. It just didn't seem like that was something that I could accomplish. Nevertheless, I kept going. 

Did you get married? Yes, I got married and my husband encouraged me to pursue my music.  So, we waited a little while until we could afford to maintain the house on one salary. Newly married couples have bills to pay, so you're trying to figure out. The truth is, both people must work in order to make ends meet. That's just the reality of it. Neither person can enjoy the luxury of laying around, singing songs all day, and recording in the studio all night. Although it sounds good it's not practical.

At what point did you take that step of faith to pursue your music? One day my husband came home and told me I could stop working and pursue my music career full-time. I know that must have been difficult being that you are a career woman. It was because I was raised to work and provide for myself. So, even though he suggested that I stop working and follow my dream, it felt unnatural for me to just sit around and do nothing. But I listened to my left my job and pursued my music career.  So, I started recording in the studio, but eventually, I became bored. I was used to having my own money so that I can buy things that I wanted to buy so I went back to work. because I was college-educated, I was able to land a decent well-paying job. But then again, I will become bored with that job then go home and complain to my husband about it. Then my husband will remind me that I didn't have to work. It was just difficult for me because I was so career oriented. I was raised to be a career woman. I know many women find it hard transitioning from being a career woman into being a homemaker. As a career woman, you're used to having tasks and timelines so making that decision can be mentally challenging.

When did you give up the fight and walk into your destiny? In 2007, is when I finally stopped working to pursue music full time. That was also when I began touring with Anita Baker full-time. After that experience, there was no turning back for me. That's when I realized that's all I wanted to do. This was going to be my life. That was when I started touring with Anita Baker.

Let's talk about the process that it took between you leaving work and being able to tour with Anita Baker what happened in between? Producer Michael Powell (who produced, “Chapter 8”) was the connection to Anita Baker.

How did you meet him? I met him in passing a couple years prior to touring with Anita. He came by a studio that I was working out of at that time. He knew that I was a polished vocalist and knew who I was, but we never connected outside of that. So, I got a point where I said, OK I need to be strategic. I can't just sit around and hope that career I wanted would just fall out of the sky and into my lap. I needed to be a lot more proactive.

So, what was the plan? Well, there was a recording studio located in downtown Detroit, MI called Harmony Park Studio and anybody who was at anybody recorded there. All the biggest stars recorded there. This is the studio that Michael Powell worked out of. Even Aretha Franklin recorded there.

There were artists that would come through and have listening events there like, Jill Scott, Aaron Neville, and many others. The studio was big and beautiful so quite naturally I had to take advantage of that opportunity. I figured that that would be a great opportunity to meet the people that I needed to meet to get where I needed to be in my career. So, When I found out that the studio was looking for a receptionist to answer the phones, I applied for the job and got it. It was a huge financial demotion for me because they only paid $10 but I didn't care, because I had a plan and that's what mattered. That was one of the best decisions that I made.

Working there as a receptionist gave me the opportunity to network and meet a lot of people of great influence. Because they knew I could sing, sometimes they would call me on my lunch hour to demo songs for other artists. I did radio and television commercial voiceovers. Consequently, I got a lot of work like that. On one hand, I was a receptionist but on the other hand, I was a studio artist. Sometimes they would have someone watch the desk while I went into the studio to record for them. I would do that when the studio wasn't that busy. So, Michael Powell continued to come in until I finally got up the nerve to approach him.

I know that must have been a very frightening experience. How did you ever muster up the nerve to speak with him?  I just went for it. One day I just approached him and said, “Mr. Powell, do you Remember Me?” He said yes. I said, you know, I've always wanted to work with you, so he then said, OK, are you working with anybody right now? I said no, then he said, well, let's do it! 

So, I would say within weeks we started working together and I did a duet with the late Ali Ollie Wilson. To be honest I didn't even know who he was at the time all I knew is that he was this big artist that was with The Temptations. So, I did the duet with him. It was for a fundraiser for Hurricane Katrina. The song was called, Reach Out Everyone. The song was beautiful. They even had an orchestra that was arranged by Paul Reiser. From that point Michael Powell had me demo songs for Yolanda Adams. I was a background singer on Yolanda Adams Christmas album. The song was called “What Christmas Means. “

After that, we had a conversation. He asked me what did I want to do? I told him that I wanted to be a background singer, and that's all I wanted to do. He also asked me who would I like to sing for? I said, the women you work with, Oleta Adams, Patti LaBelle, Gladys Knight, Anita Baker, and Aretha Franklin, it would be an honor to work with any one of those women!  So, he told me that he was going to take me around to a couple of artists that he worked with and see if they wanted to work with me. The first artist that he introduced me to was Aretha Franklin.

Oh boy, that sounds frightening! Were you nervous? Yes, so this is what happened. One day while Aretha Franklin was recording in the studio Michael Powell took me in to meet her. Michael approached her and said, “I have this girl who can sing, this is Beth.” she wants to sing background vocals.

What was going through your mind at the time? It was a surreal moment. I mean, I'm standing there looking at Aretha Franklin! I freaked out! I was like, this is really Aretha Franklin! So, Michael goes on to tell Aretha that she knew my dad, Johnny Griffith from the funk brothers. She said, “Oh yeah, I know your daddy. I've worked with him before. My father was Aretha Franklin's first touring keyboard player.

Wow, how cool is that! Yes, they toured together. Because she knew my dad, I felt like I had that job! I said to myself, “she knows my dad, I got this job!”

Did you get the job? No. I did not get the job.

Hilarious but I'm not surprised somehow, I knew that would be the outcome. She doesn't appear to be someone that's easily impressed. So funny!  Right? She said, “who else have you sang for baby?” I told her that I’ve worked with Mr. Powell. She said, “no, I mean have you been on the road with anyone? I said no, she said “Oh no, no, no you can't tour with me. 

Hilarious! I mean Gina I was just standing there, and she told me no to my face! I was gutted. I felt like the wind got knocked out of me. So, I said Ok and Mike was still trying to pitch me. He said, “but Aretha she's good!” Aretha said yeah but I don't think she's ready. She's not going on the road for the first time with me. He finally accepted her response I thanked her for the opportunity, and we left.

So, after we left Michael told me don't worry about it, I'll get you hooked up with someone else. I'm not going to lie I was shell-shocked! I couldn't believe that she just said no to my face.

I'm sorry for laughing but somehow, I knew that was going to be the outcome while you were telling me the story. but I must give you kudos for trying. I don't think I could have never gone through with it. I would have been too afraid. I was afraid but because Mike was with me, it made the process a lot easier. Remember he was doing all the talking. He was trying to do his best and she was like get this little kid out my face!

Girl stop! I cannot! You have me over here in tears laughing! I am so sorry, but this story is hilarious! You are brave and courageous! Yes, so after collecting myself from that traumatic experience I thought to myself well it's cool.

So where did you go from there? I became bored again so, I left working at Harmony Park and became a substitute teacher. I hadn't talked to Mike Powell in a minute. Although I tried calling him numerous times, I was unsuccessful. So, one day, when it was almost time to dismiss my class the phone rings and it’s Mike. I say, hey Mike, I've been calling you! He says, yeah, but I've been extremely busy. I want to go back a little bit.

Ok. Do you remember when I said that he asked me who I wanted to work with?

Yes. And I mentioned Anita Baker.

Yes. Well, at the time, he told me that I would never work with Anita Baker because she has her set singers and that was it. He was 100% sure that I would never work with Anita Baker and that was the end of the story as far as he was concerned. I told him I understand that but if a door does open, please keep me in mind. He said OK I'll call you if something happens but I'm telling you it's not going to happen. He told me that she had her set people and that she was extremely particular. 

Observing Anita Baker's professionalism, I imagine That her standards would be right up there with Aretha Franklins. Yes, so back to the classroom phone call. The phone rings and it’s Mike. I told him that I Had been trying to reach him for a while. He apologized and said that he had been busy. Out of concern, I asked him if he was OK he said yes. Keep in mind while this entire conversation was going on I was sitting in the classroom with the children who were eager to go home. So, he said remember that time when I asked you who you wanted to work with, and you said Anita Baker? I said yes. Then he went on to say and I told you that it would never happen. I say yes. He said Well something happened. I screamed in the classroom! 

Out of concern, the kids asked me what was wrong? They said what's wrong Ms. Manley? Just as soon as they asked me what was wrong the bell rang. I screamed go home, everybody! Get out of here and go home! So, I told Mike that I will call him back as soon as the children left.

What a blessing! Yes, he said, this is a rare opportunity because Anita Baker always keeps her singers together. So, he gave me his word that if anything ever happened, he would call me. Something happened, so he made good on his word.

How exciting to experience that! to be able to sing with someone that you admired so much is a true blessing from God! only God can open impossible doors! Yes, he told me that she called her and asked her to find some girls. When it really hit me, I began to freak out! I couldn't believe it!

So, he scolded me in a sense and said, “now listen, don't get excited, this is only one show so don't go in there acting out or running your mouth. I mean he gave me the rundown. He told me to be on my best behavior and that this was major and serious. So, he assembled a few ladies along with me and we did a show with Anita in Detroit at the Music Hall theater. It was the most amazing thing ever! When I arrived at the Music Hall, they were rehearsing their soundcheck. Gina, it was overwhelming! The lights and everything were just grand! I came to the Music Hall that day.

So, we did the show, and was a success. Now prior to the show, my husband kept encouraging me to get a passport. during that time, I was teaching and wasn't singing background for anyone, so I didn't feel as though it was urgent. Regardless of what I said, my husband kept pushing me to get my passport just in case something happened.

So, after we got back from the show, I had a dream and, in this dream, I needed to get a passport. It was so strong that it woke me up in the middle of the night. So, the first thing I did when I woke up, I called Christy and Bridget, these were the girls I did the show with. I said, don't think I'm crazy, but we need our passports. I went on to tell them that I had a dream that was so strong that it woke me up in the middle of the night. So, they said OK what do you think we should do? I said, “we need to get our passports ASAP.” I jumped out the bed got dressed and picked up an application for my passport. when I arrived back home, I began to second guess myself. I kind of told myself, what are you doing? It's only a dream. Nevertheless, I had my passport application in hand.

So, what happened? Do you really want to know?

Yes. Gina, this is no joke, Anita Baker's manager called me, told me that we did a good job performing on the show with Anita. I said, thank you. Then he went on to say, are you available to go to London next week? I literally threw my phone! I told him all I needed to do was get my passport. He said, “Oh, then you probably won't be able to do it.” I told him don't give up on me just give me a minute. so, I called the girls because we had until the following Friday, and he called me on a Monday. So, I got in touch with the girls, we began researching where we could get a passport quickly. We found a place in Chicago. So, all three of us got in the car, and we drove to Chicago. We got our passports and flew to London the following week. I sang background for Anita for the next five years.

What a blessing! I'm sure you learned a lot by being on the road with Anita Baker.

Yes, performing with her and getting trained by her, fueled me to become a better singer and a better person. Just to see a black woman commend her stage the way Anita Baker did, made me want to become a solo artist. I wasn't sure how I was going to achieve that goal, but I knew that I had the best teacher in the world! She’s amazing!

Yes, I love Anita Baker. Her shows are flawless, and her voice is always on point! I grew up listening to her music and I even saw her in concert. I must admit, that was one of the best concerts that I ever saw before in my entire life!

A lot of people are put up by strong women because they have a standard. But I think that everyone should have boundaries in their life. It's a saying that I have all the time without boundaries there are no limits.

Because she's set boundaries This is why she has an excellent show. And I don't blame her, when you work hard you don't want someone coming in that will rip down what you built because of their lack of integrity or enthusiasm. like I said she's awesome, but you are too!  Awe thank you!

Well, it’s true! So, I want to talk a little bit about the voice. When you got on that show, were you already touring with Kim and Najee? I had already been touring with Kim during that time. In fact, Kem hired me on the spot just because he knew that I worked with Anita Baker.

You go girl! To my recollection, I believe I began working with Kem around 2012 or 2013. 

How did you officially meet? We met on the set of the movie, Sparkle. I was the body double for the late Whitney Houston.

How amazing is that! Not only did you have the opportunity to work with Whitney Houston, but you were her body double. what a wonderful opportunity! Yes, it was. It was a dream come true because Whitney Houston is my favorite singer!

Why was he there? He was part of the cast.

Awesome! Yes, so we met, and he offered me the opportunity, to tour with him. Then came, “The Voice.” I met Najee around 2018 while doing Earl Klugh’s jazz weekend. We were in a car, riding to the airport one morning around 5:00 am. As a side note, he and I love this story. Sometimes we even share it while on stage. So, this is the way the story goes. They put me in the car with Najee and I was freaking out because I could not believe they would put a background singer in the car with a big-name celebrity. I asked someone could they check the list because I didn't think I was supposed to be in his car. Najee is so nice. He said, “we're just going to the airport come on and get in the car.” on our way to the airport we get a flat tire. mind you it’s about 5:00 AM in the morning.

So, while we sit in the car waiting for the tire to be fixed, I asked him, does he ever have a singer on his show? He said “sometimes.”  I said, well, can I give you, my album? He agreed, then we began conversing. Surprisingly, he downloaded my album, listened to it, and called me in a couple of months later when he came to Detroit. So, I ended up doing a show with him. We did that show in 2019. In 2020, nobody went anywhere until 2021. He called me back and I did around 10 shows with him.

You have so many amazing moments! I tell you this interview is probably one of the most exciting interviews that I've done! I'm so happy for you! So, when you were on The Voice you were simultaneously touring with Kem? Correct, only Kem at that time. 

What year were you on The Voice? The 16th season, 2019.

What was that experience like for you? A ball of emotion. You almost have PTSD when you come off that show. I'm not even sure if that would be the proper way to describe my experience because many people associate PTSD with something negative, but I compare my experience on The Voice to a traumatic one because it moves so fast. You learn so much in a short period of time. you have to be a sponge and an open book. Also, there's a lot of auditioning. even though it was intense it helped me to become a better artist. I became stronger and more aware. Any contestant that would say they learned nothing from that experience, I would say that they didn’t come on the show for the right reasons. 

On that show, you're exposed to Hollywood, lights, and camera action! You get to experience (A1) hair and makeup, wardrobe, and millions of television viewers. The only thing is that it all happens so fast. I will say this though, the training is incredible! In fact, you move so quickly that when you're off the show you have to take time to reflect and take it all in. it's just overwhelming! you literally sit back and say wow, what did I learn what did I experience what did I see? The full appreciation of what I experienced came after I left the show. But I would have to say, I met some amazing people with whom I keep in contact to this day. Overall, the exposure was priceless, and it changed the trajectory of my career.

What an amazing experience to have. Although you had lots of experience on stage performing as a background singer, being spotlighted as a solo artist is different. I agree. You know, The Voice not only changed me as a person, but it changed me as an artist, the way I approached a song, and the way I approached my audience.

As a solo artist, how do you deal with rejection, especially on a show such as The Voice, when you've already proven you can sing with the best of the best as a background singer, but get rejected? And then get rejected.

Exactly? That's a great question because I think as we grow, every level has a beginning. No one just jumps in the middle; you start at the beginning of that level and work your way up. So yes, there are different levels that I've been on. Yes, I felt extremely vulnerable on that show.

Did you feel naked and afraid? (laughs)  I did! (laughs) Not only that but, I felt naked, afraid, and alone (laughs)!  When you're on a show like the voice, there’s a lot of things that go through your mind. It's almost like the different levels in high school. First, you're a freshman than a sophomore, junior, and then senior right?

Right. Being on the voice and entering television land, I felt like a freshman. I felt vulnerable. But every time I sang on television, I became a lot more confident. Being on The Voice was different in the sense that when I was on tour with Anita and Kem, I picked my own wardrobe, I did my own hair and makeup and then I would get on stage, they tell you where to stand and that's that. But, on The Voice, they treat you like a celebrity, they do it for you. It's a lot of glitz and glamour. I never experienced that when I was on tour with the other artists because I was not the artist in the spotlight.

Not so with The Voice. There are 12 cameras and a whole lot of people looking at you. But again, I believe that the experience that I had there prepared me for where I am today. I would say this, if I had to do it all over again, I would.

Awesome! Now you performed on “Dancing With The Stars.” What an amazing accomplishment! Can you tell me about that? Sure, I believe that you should forge great relationships with people. Ray Chew, who was the previous musical director for Anita Baker and currently the musical director for “Dancing With The Stars” TV show. So, it was through his connection that I was able to sing on that show. Ray is an incredible music director and conductor! So, one day he reached out to me to come and perform. They were putting together a big show on dancing with the stars, and he needed additional singers. So that's how I was able to sing on season 22 icon night. What they did was cover all the music icons, both female and male. It was an amazing show! What made it even more amazing is that I got the chance to sing a Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin song.

That is wonderful! I've got to go online and look at that show! I'm going to pivot a little bit and talk about the children's book you published about bullying. My book was released in October 2021. It's called.” I am Beautiful Inside And Out.”

Congratulations! Thank you, I had a lot of fun working on that project. One of the reasons I love the book so much is because the colors are so beautiful and vibrant. It's brightly colored and illustrated.

What's the book about? The story has a lot of similarities to the ugly duckling. What’s different is that Instead of it being a duck it's a caterpillar and a butterfly. I wanted to personalize it, so I named the Caterpillar Beth. I feel like it's my story because when I first started out in the business, I was very insecure and very unsure of myself. I didn't feel beautiful, nor did I feel accepted until I developed in my career. Now, I see myself as colorful and optimistic regarding the direction of my life and who I am as an individual. as a child, I was bullied because I was the kid who was the tallest skinniest, and darkest. kids will make fun of me and say that I had to grow into my head. how was that kid with the big eyes, and the big teeth, so they teased me? That's the Caterpillar. The one that had not blossomed. See, I know what it feels like to be bullied as a child because I was that girl. People make fun of people who don't look like them, talk like them or come from a different place than they do. Some children can be mean. 

And The thing is that children at that age don't understand that just because a child looks that way when they're young that doesn't mean that's what they're going to look like as an adult. So, I believe it's very important that parents teach their children to not bully others because of the way they look. So, I try to teach children that when you're treat you that way, you don't have to be around them. Basically, the story covers all those aspects of bullying and a way that children can understand.

I also tell them to make sure that they tell an adult when someone is treating them that way. The book encourages dialogue between the parent and the children so that they can express their feelings when they're feeling ugly or whatever they're feeling, to be transparent and express those feelings with their parents.

what a great way to teach children about bullying. It's wonderful how are negative experiences in life can help someone else have a better experience in their future. I think all it takes is for someone to care such as yourself. There are so many people that experience things such as that and will never open up and share it. We are here to help others on this earth so it's a good thing that you're doing what you're doing. I'm proud of you!  Thank you! But yes, I love this story! It's the first of a series. Beth is going to have more adventures!

That's awesome! I mean you do so many wonderful things! You are an inspiration to not only myself but so many others, I'm sure! I'm so glad that you're talking about the effects of bullying. What's interesting is that a lot of children experienced the bulk of their bullying before they even leave the home. What's even sadder is that a lot of children experience that from within their own communities. Sometimes even from their own family members. I don't think family purposely tries to hurt or bully their children but some of the things that are said in the home can be very hurtful. Consequently, children suppress those words, and they stick with them throughout their entire life. Right, we don't talk about it. What’s sad is that as a result of that, people are modifying their bodies and all sorts of crazy things just to fit in. They do this because no one ever affirmed them or told them they were beautiful just the way they are. 

Let's pivot back to the music. I understand you have a new album coming out. Yes, “Got Next “is already out. It came out in March of 2021 featuring Swifty McVay from D12 of the Eminem camp. They're all from Detroit so we wanted to feature some Detroit artists and do something a little different.

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Awesome! I had so much fun recording that project! That was the first single released off that album. My second CD will be out in 2022. The goal is to have it out around June.

OK great. For that to come out, and so that next was the first single from that, I did, a, uh, just a big funky song just to encourage people coming out of.

OK.

I also recorded a funky song. I wrote this song during the pandemic to encourage people to pursue their dreams regardless of all the negativity surrounding them. It's kind of like whatever you're going through, you Got Next on that! That's what the “Got Next” project is all about. Just to clarify, Got Next” was the first single released from the new album coming out in June of 2022. The second single from that same album will be released in March of 2022.

Is there a music video on that song? Yes, It is this on YouTube.

OK, I'll have to check it out. Most people know me as being an R&B singer, so I decided to change it up and do something with a hip hop, West Coast funk feel.

OK. You know, I am the daughter of a funk brother, so I had to bring something funky! And so we did. 

Are you planning on going back on tour anytime soon? Absolutely we're working on something right now. Once everything is completely in the pocket then we will publicize it. I would encourage those who would like to see me perform live to visit my website. That's where they can learn more about my touring schedule.

Awesome! I will say this, on February 12, I'll be opening for Peabo Bryson.

That's my wedding anniversary! Well, happy anniversary!

Thank you so kindly! So, in closing, brief and powerful, what would you say?

Your attitude determines your altitude. 

Well said! Thank you with all my heart for taking the time to speak with me and our indie post readers. I pray that God will continue to bless you on your journey. I pray that he will open doors of opportunity for you and keep you and your family safe during this time. Thank you Gina.

Photo credits

All Beths photos are by: Tyrone Holmes

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